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TomF1Sep 14, 2017 @ 5:06 PM
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Interesting read, thank you to all who contributed. I'm on my 5th day, 1st time with Champix. Tried everything else. The most success I had was 7 months cold turkey 3 years ago. No more than a few days with all my other quits. So far, a little nausea. Felt a little lethargic. Ok, still do. Really happy to see the success story of the people who have been successful. Keep those stories coming! Thanx,

My Milage:

My Quit Date: 9/23/2017
Smoke-Free Days: -8
Cigarettes Not Smoked: -200
Amount Saved: $-96.00
Life Gained:
Days: 0 Hrs: 0 Mins: 0 Seconds: -114607

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Emily, Quit CoachSep 14, 2017 @ 2:01 PM
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Hi everyone, 

 It's good to see that you are finding methods that are working so well for you. 

Champix can effect each person differently. Which we can see from reading these posts. But there can be different options to taking the medication that can be discussed with you're doctor or pharmacist (eg. taking a lower dose). Each person/body is different so it can be helpful to work with your Health Care Professionals to find methods/doses that work for you. 

Have a great smoke free day, 
Emily

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Stephan121Sep 14, 2017 @ 1:28 PM
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Hi Ledburywho,
 
Congrats on doing it again. I recently used Champix for the 3rd time since 2007.
I started in April 7th and set my quit date for April 23rd.
 
Nausea with the morning pill was an issue and insomnia with the evening pill.
The pill is frustrating, but it is worth 12 weeks of craziness.
What I did for the last week of doses was take only one pill in the morning and skip the evening dose. So I prolonged the duration to 13 weeks by taking one a day. It helped to get my sleep back on track and wean myself off the Champix.
 
I have been smoke free for 144 days and off champix for 70 days.
All I can say is it works! I can safely say I have no crazy urges to smoke any more. I didn't try to change my life at all. You will have to deal with those triggers like drinking at some point, so why not ingrain drinking a few drinks as part of the smoke free you. You can't abstain from everything that makes you want to smoke.
 
Good luck and stick with it. It will get better and easier every day. 
 
 
TreepeoSep 13, 2017 @ 11:06 PM
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Hi Ledburywho,
 
I just want to congratulate you for putting so much thought, time and effort into quitting!  That is really impressive.  And I am so happy to hear that you are finding your quit counselling to be so helpful.  You know, it used to frustrate me so much that people said we should quit, but offered no help in that regard. Thank goodness that times have finally changed.
 
I'm not sure when you quit, but just know that it really does get a lot easier as time goes by, so no matter what, stick with it.  It is so worth it. 


My Milage:

My Quit Date: 12/29/2016
Smoke-Free Days: 259
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 6,475
Amount Saved: $777.00
Life Gained:
Days: 35 Hrs: 16 Mins: 4 Seconds: 14

Valerie, Quit Coach Sep 13, 2017 @ 8:40 PM
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Hi Ledburywho,

Congratulations on staying committed to your smoke-free plan!

Thank you, Leburywho and Vix1976, for sharing your experience with Champix and how you worked towards making a quit plan the members here. Finding the right tools and strategies for your (individual) quit is definitely key to help you through your smoke-free journey. 

Kindly,

Valerie

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Vix1976Sep 13, 2017 @ 5:12 PM
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I know you're supposed to take it with lots of water and food but I cannot bring myself to eat breakfast. It makes me ill, been like this since I was a kid. Champix still seems to be working well though. I was supposed to get a call from a support group too but never did and forgot to follow up so I'm goona lean on this one instead 🙂
LedburywhoSep 13, 2017 @ 3:52 PM
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I have been speaking to medical professionals every chance I get about this!! It has really helped me feel like this is the last time I will quit and I have support when going through (what I call) The Champix Madness.This is my second time taking Champix to quit and I learned you can't think you are smarter than the plan. You have to set your quit date and stick to it or you will always let yourself off the hook.
 
Here's what I did:
1. Went to Dr. for Champix script. She also gave me the name of her practice's facebook group for quitters. THEN she signed me up for quit-counseling with a pharmacist (through the primary care network. AB Health paid for it). 
2. I cannot recommend quit counseling enough! we went though all my personal triggers and fears around quitting, set some plans in place and gave me a few assignments. My pharm emails me every few days to check in with my progress and offers ideas on dealing with The Madness.
3. Champix does a lot to help with cravings, but ITS ALL YOU. Set a quit date and never puff again. No one can do this but you. I quit on Day 10 of the pills. ITS ALL YOU.
4. Dealing with champix is a trip for sure and everyone experiences it differently. I have to set an alarm to eat breakfast, drink a metric tonne of water, then morning pill. I take a gas-pill (ovol) after lunch or else I will blow up like Violet Beauregarde by dinner time and not "pass" any air for hours. It's quite painful but not as bad as lung cancer... remember that. Dinner has to be relatively on time or the evening pill will keep me up all night. AAAND every time I take a Champix, I have to take 2 ginger gravol to keep the spinning nausea away. It works.
5. Cut your caffiene intake. I learned that there is a component in the tar (not the nicotine) that allows smokers to metabolize caffiene faster, so when we quit, we are less tolerant of it. I think that's a big reason why people complain of not being able to fall asleep. This was all according to my pharm/counselor. I try to keep a set bed-time right now too. which leads to....
6. change your routine. I have been seriously antisocial these days because a lot of friends smoke. Instead find a new book, or come here to read forums or literature about quitting. Also avoiding alcohol-focused events has really helped as booze can be a trigger to smoke. Getting some regular exercise does wonders as well.
 
This is what is working for me so I hope it helps! I am healthier than ever with the increased water intake, meal planning, caffiene cut-down, regular exercise and early bed times.  oh yeah and no more cigarettes! The more I focus on the other things, the less I think about butts. Everything sucks and I feel like garbage but we all knew this wasn't going to be easy.
Good luck to us all. 
 
TreepeoJul 19, 2017 @ 9:17 PM
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Hi Suzzyq,
 
I have never used Champix, but I do want to say that I agree with Shanbam.  I would suggest that you spend some time reading the milestones on this site.  There are suggestions about how best to prepare for your quit, ways to deal with cravings, ways to track your progress, etc.  Quitting smoking is not easy, but doing some legwork in advance really helps to prepare you for a successful quit.
 
It is wonderful that you have decided to quit smoking.  Please keep posting because we are all here for you.  I know you can do this.  Believe in yourself. 


My Milage:

My Quit Date: 12/29/2016
Smoke-Free Days: 203
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 5,075
Amount Saved: $609.00
Life Gained:
Days: 27 Hrs: 22 Mins: 49 Seconds: 3

ShanbamJul 19, 2017 @ 5:18 PM
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Hi Suzzyq I have been taking Champix for almost 4 weeks. I set my quit date for one week after I started. I spent that week reading and completing the milestones on this website. I made a list of the reasons I wanted to quit. This website and other members' posts have been a big help. I spent the week getting myself ready to be a non smoker. So far it has worked and Champix and the other tools on this website can work for you too. Being a non smoker is worth it!!

My Milage:

My Quit Date: 6/30/2017
Smoke-Free Days: 19
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 228
Amount Saved: $155.04
Life Gained:
Days: 2 Hrs: 14 Mins: 39 Seconds: 42

Sarah, Quit CoachJul 19, 2017 @ 3:07 PM
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Hello suzzyq - great to hear from you. Sounds like this quit is important to you for your health; choosing a quit aid like Champix, and picking a quit date helps you on your way to your goal of going smoke-free! We have several members here on SHO who used cessation medication, so you came to the right place for support. All the best, Sarah
suzzyqJul 18, 2017 @ 11:38 PM
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I started Champix a month ago and still smoking however not as much. I went from one pack a day to maybe 7-8 daily. After the 4 weeks of Champix I didn't know it has a continuation so I stopped everything. I saw my Doctor this morning and I'm back to day 1 and my quit date is July 24. I'm convinced this time is it. I have COPD and I'm on oxygen 24/7. I need support as I'm a heavy smoker.
Life2222Mar 06, 2017 @ 5:21 PM
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It took me almost 4 weeks to stop smoking completely, but I have done it!!!  (I did cut back drastically right away; down to about 3 a day for weeks 2-4) but I have been completely smoke free since last Monday!!!  This is already a milestone for me because I have never been without some form of nicotine in my system (I had tried the patch several times).  Champix is definitely helping with the intensity of the cravings, but they are there and I have to fight through them!!  
 
How long did it take you until you really felt like you wre out of the "danger zone"?  
 
Thanks!!! 
SlissyFeb 22, 2017 @ 8:22 AM
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Thank you Mar for that inspirational post. I know it wasn't meant for me but it helped me so much!!

My Milage:

My Quit Date: 2/21/2017
Smoke-Free Days: 1
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 12
Amount Saved: $7.80
Life Gained:
Days: 0 Hrs: 3 Mins: 10 Seconds: 47

Slissy

IamaquitterforgoodFeb 13, 2017 @ 1:07 PM
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Hi Life2222, I am on my 24th day of Champix and the side effects that I have encountered are nausea, mood swings, a lot of gas and extreme constipation.  I was considering just stopping Champix after the starter pack but have decided against it.  I have come this far and figured I could tough out the side effects better than cravings for cigs.  Just a year ago someone was asking me about quitting smoking and I told them I would be a smoker until the day I died, I am now on my 10th day of not smoking!
 
Hang in there! 
MarFeb 10, 2017 @ 10:57 PM
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Glad it helps! It's the positives we all seem to forget about that we should ever be so grateful for! You are doing great! When I was down to where you are I would only take puffs when I craved. Sometimes I would light it ... take two puffs ... then butt it (save the butt)! Each time to light it .... it gets stinkier & stinkier! I stopped emptying my ash tray and the smell really started getting to me. I was fortunate that I worked from home so I had the benefit of puffing in my garage. I also used a coffee can with lids to collect my butts and when I got desperate .... I wud lift the lid and sniff! Pretty disgusting! The image and rank smell still remains with me. But you know you! Do it your way or try some of my advice. Just know deep down inside of you .... that this is it ..... you are taking care of you! I know you can do it! Take care!

My Milage:

My Quit Date: 3/25/2014
Smoke-Free Days: 1054
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 26,350
Amount Saved: $15,810.00
Life Gained:
Days: 148 Hrs: 14 Mins: 30 Seconds: 47

Just Believe! Its All Good!

Life2222Feb 09, 2017 @ 1:13 PM
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Wow, Mar, thank you for that very encouraging, motivational post!  Congrats on your success!  
 
I have cut myself back to 3/day at the moment.  This morning was rough but I made it through.  I still plan to stop cigarettes altogether by the weekend.  
 
Someone told me this morning to not count the cigarettes I smoke right now, but to count the ones I didn't smoke.  That means I didn't smoke 10 cigarettes yesterday.  
 
I appreciate your post; I am going to look at it as a reminder of how much better I will feel in a very short time, being free of nicotine.   
MarFeb 09, 2017 @ 10:27 AM
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Hello & Congrats to everyone here taking the leap!  You are taking a huge step on improving your health and taking good care of yourself .... as you should!  I too used this product in my journey and it was a tremendous help.  Quitting your prescription early??? up to you but I really would weigh the costs of smoking on a weekly basis vs taking the prescription.  The prescription is a very temporary thing and in time your wallet will be full again!  I cannot stress enough to .... write down your real, real, real reasons as to why you wish to quit .... your pros & cons and go through each one individually ..... really really think about your statement and is this something you truly wish for yourself or are you lying to yourself!   Believe Believe Believe in you!  And have your mind totally clear of any sabotage efforts the brain may play tricks on you!  
The other day I had my regular dental check up with my usual six month cleaning.  This time they did an update to my records (the last time was five years ago) to record my gum recession.  I could not believe my eyes and ears when she total me that my gums, with exception to one little spot, had totally reversed themselves ... in three years ... my gums had HEALED THEMSELVES!  It is fact smoking has a direct affect on your oral health and this is pure evidence of that!  Not only has my oral health improved but so has my skin .... it shines & radiates health!  I can WALK!  I mean really walk like two miles with no strain on my lungs!  My body is healing itself .... go figure ....at 57 years of age .... wrap your head around that one!  My body is healing itself and I want to jump, shout and tell the whole world because I DID IT .......... I DID THIS FOR ME!
AND I COULDN'T BE ANY PROUDER OF MYSELF THAN I AM IN THIS VERY MOMENT!!!!
And I was one of those people who was addicted a good pack of smokes everyday .... day in & day out ... friends would laugh when I would say I want to quit because they thought ... no way!  Yup I was .... WAS ... one of those!
Do it!  Continue .... find a way to continue moving forward each and every single day to a smoke free life!  Tell yourself that you love you and you are doing this for you!   YOU ARE WORTH IT!  
I wish you all continued success in your journey!!!  You are a rockstar!!!


My Milage:

My Quit Date: 3/25/2014
Smoke-Free Days: 1052
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 26,300
Amount Saved: $15,780.00
Life Gained:
Days: 148 Hrs: 9 Mins: 22 Seconds: 4

Just Believe! Its All Good!

Life2222Feb 06, 2017 @ 5:04 PM
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Thanks everyone.  My dosage increased today and I have had 4 cigarettes, none of which were very satisfying.  I am definitely noticing a decrease in cravings; actually I have had none to speak of and I think the cigarettes I have smoked are out of sheer habit.  I am going to try cutting myself back each day until hopefully by the weekend, I'll be finished smoking altogether.  I am trying to not be too hard on myself, but I do know that I need to resist lighting up too!!!  
 
Good luck to all of you and I also support you on your journey!! 
smokefreestormFeb 03, 2017 @ 9:44 AM
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I started Champix on January 15, 2017. I was worried about some of the side effects too, however, I remembered that every drug has "possible" side effects and that smoking has many side effects. I am starting to feel some nausea and some bloating now, 2.5 weeks in. It can be uncomfortable but it's still doable. If it keeps up or gets worse I'll see my doctor about maybe lowering the dose for next month. I am 8 days and 13 hours smoke free at this point after stopping before my quit date. There are no nicotine cravings but there are a few - not many - "want" habits. I was a smoker for 38 years with the majority of that being a pack a day who had not ever tried quitting before. Realizing that a 38 year habit can't be completely beaten in 2.5 weeks has really spurred me on. Keep us posted on you and good luck!
papabearFeb 03, 2017 @ 8:27 AM
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Hi Lfe2222, I took champix and it helped me stop smoking. I did feel nausea and had trouble sleeping. I finally had to stop taking it because of the nausea, but it got me through the worst part of withdrawal. Good luck, its worth it.

My Milage:

My Quit Date: 1/1/2016
Smoke-Free Days: 399
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 7,182
Amount Saved: $1,723.68
Life Gained:
Days: 91 Hrs: 3 Mins: 4 Seconds: 7

Linda, ModeratorFeb 02, 2017 @ 4:10 PM
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Hi Life2222 and welcome to SHO!

So happy to hear that you are taking an important decision to quit smoking. Congrats for all the hard work you’ve done to reach this day. Regarding the Champix, you said I worry though as I am increasing my dosage today Here are some information about this quit medication:

“How it works: 

Champix can help to relieve the craving and withdrawal symptoms associated with quitting smoking. It is believed to work by stimulating the same areas of the brain that nicotine does. It acts like a weaker version of nicotine and also blocks nicotine from getting to the nicotine receptor. 

The most common side effects are: 

Nausea, vomiting, trouble sleeping, headache, abnormal dreams, constipation and gas. 

If you have any problems, it's best to talk to your Doctor who may reduce your dose temporarily or make other recommendations. 

In case of an allergic reaction or unexpected effects, stop taking Champix and call your doctor or pharmacist. 

Trying to quit smoking is associated with various symptoms such as depressed mood, insomnia, irritability, frustration or anger and anxiety.  It is not known if these symptoms or suicide ideation are related directly to CHAMPIX.  Health Canada is continuing to monitor adverse reactions suspected of being associated with CHAMPIX." 

I hope this will help and please call your doctor or pharmacist if you have questions and concerns about the Champix. If you want more information, please go to the community forum "All Time Favorites" and read the post "CHAM PIXIE CENTRAL..."

We are here for you and keep us posted with your journey so we can encourage you along.

Have a lovely day. Take care.

  

Linda, Quit Coach

Life2222Feb 02, 2017 @ 1:57 PM
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Hi, I'm new here as of right now.  I am on Day 4 of Champix and I have definitely noticed a decrease in cravings, which is very encouraging.  (I am a 40 year 1/2 pack/day smoker).  I tried the patch several times over the years with no luck.
 
My doctor wasn't concerned about me taking Champix and I have had a friend who quit 3 years ago thanks to it.  
 
I worry though as I am increasing my dosage today.  I guess I've read too many scary stories about this drug.  Please give me some encouragement, advice and your experience with it?  
 
When they say that there could be thoughts of suicide, would that already be happening or am I being lulled into a false sense of security because I haven't experienced anything?  What about the other frightening side-effects?  
 
Kind of nervous but excited to see if I can become a non-smoker!!  It's definitely long overdue.